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Dumbing Down?

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:53 am
by KenOwen
Tonight, I watched on iplayer the two episodes of Mastermind which had been on earlier.

After I had watched the first, I noticed that iplayer was making recommendations of "similar" programmes for me.

Not surprisingly, the first recommendation was for more Mastermind. Fair enough.

The second (and only other) suggestion was.................. Total Wipeout.

Now, without even entering into discussion on the relative merits of either programme, does Auntie seriously consider they are comparable?

If so, it might explain why we so often lament the lack of truly challenging questions on so many quiz-related programmes...

Just a thought.


Re: Dumbing Down?

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:57 am
by Chris
T'internets regularly throw-up incongruous matches. I regularly visit a rabid Everton supporters website which carries ads placed by Google. You'd be amazed how often Google suggests I, and others like me, might be interested in buying a red football shirt with "Standard Chartered" emblazoned across the breast....

Re: Dumbing Down?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:21 pm
by inspectorbucket
On the subject of "dumbing down", does anyone have a view on the current format of "A Question Of Sport". It seems to me to be more like a game show now to allow the captains to become excited when they are miming something or other (or trying to spot the names of sports people from photographs) or to allow them to take part in some silly game that has nothing to do with a proper quiz. Even the quiz part of the programme now sometimes requires a test of observation rather than knowledge and, on the rare occasion that "What Happened Next" is shown, alternative answers are given for the captains to choose from.

I seem to remember that, even when previous captains were having fun, it was a serious quiz. Am I looking back through rose tinted spectacles or do the makers of these programmes believe that that is all that we want now?

Re: Dumbing Down?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:18 pm
by petewins57
Interesting you should mention QofS in a thread about dumbing down. Arguably, it's predecessor was a show called Quiz Ball, which was one of my favourite programmes when I was growing up (late 60s, early 70s - yikes!). That show featured teams consisting of current footballers - imagine trying to coax them onto something like that these days!

I remember a certain Alex Ferguson (yes, that one) represented Falkirk on one episode.

Actually, while we're her, can anyone confirm or otherwise that the phrase "route one" was born out of this show? I've heard that, but never been able to verify it. FYI in the show, a contestant could opt to score via 4 options, from 4 easy questions through to 1 very tough question, shown on the electronic scoreboard as route 1.

Re: Dumbing Down?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:10 am
by AlanGibbs
According to the excellent broadcaster Gary Imlach's superb book about his father Stewart (who won the FA Cup playing for Nottingham Forest in the 1950's), Mr Imlach Snr appeared on the first ever episode of "QuizBall". It is stated in there that the Route One thing does indeed come from there, for exactly the reaosns you describe. As peculiar as it sounds, that derivation sounds like it might be spot-on.


Re: Dumbing Down?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:25 am
by Chris
Marvellous. :ugeek:

Re: Dumbing Down?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:54 am
by davetaylor
Reading the posts on "Quizball" reminds me of Sunderland's one and only appearance on the show.
Stalwart full back Len Ashurst was asked "Who are the Heavenly Twins?"
Considered reply........... "Pinky and Perky"!

Re: Dumbing Down?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:03 pm
by SimonJC
According to a biography of Fergie I read a while ago, Falkirk lost because his teammate, future Scotland boss Andy Roxburgh, didn't know his horse racing...

Re: Dumbing Down?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:33 pm
by Bennybiel
I have to agree about Question of Sport. The picture round may have improved by making it a speed round but I don't want to see the captains on mechanical polo ponies or playing table tennis, etc.

The captains questions in the home and away round fail to brab my attention as well. In fact I find myself watching the whole programme whilst I'm doing something else.

Re: Dumbing Down?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:00 pm
by petewins57
Couldn't agree more. Definitely gone the way of "entertainment" rather than a pure quiz.

...the Mrs likes it though.